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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 1:51 pm ] |
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Here are a couple rosettes I just completed. They should look better under finish. The first is a Michael Collins inspired. I couldn't quite make one with his flare for design but I think it looks pretty good. Thank you Michael  It is on a SJ sitka top and will have EIR back & sides
This one is Andy Depauls great paua rosettes. It also should look better under finish. It is a cedar top going on sapele B&S. Thanks for looking! 
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:30 pm ] |
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Very nice work! I've just spent a couple of hours experimenting to try to find a way to cut those wood rosette rings cleanly- without much success. Obviously you have it figured out! What technique do you use to cut them ? (type of cutter, etc.)? Thanks John |
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| Author: | old man [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:35 pm ] |
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Very nice, Joe. Is that abalone 3/8"? Ron |
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| Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:42 pm ] |
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Very Nice and clean. Great job |
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| Author: | Anthony Z [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:48 pm ] |
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Joe -- nice clean work. The bookmatching of the spalted maple is top drawer. I've got a bunch of spalted maple and paua -- do you take orders? |
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| Author: | Steve Kinnaird [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:59 pm ] |
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They look great, Joe! I'm always amazed how well-matched is the color of Andy's shell. It just doesn't get much better than that, does it? Steve |
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 3:41 pm ] |
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Thank you all for the nice comments.... Ron, It's 1/4", but it does look pretty big in the top. Should show off well. Steve, DePaul is great, I ordered a Paua rosette from LMI last year and I'm sorry to say, there is no comparison. (Sorry LMI but please know I do love you. You have made me happy time and again through the years!!! Anthony....you couldn't afford me by the hour! I spent a lot of time and put a lot of beautiful wood in the trash getting this one! John, I starting doing it just like Michael Collins described a month or so ago. I had two problems, my spalded maple was to busy so after all the work bookmatching I might of just as well cut out one piece! The other was I tried to use CA to join the pieces together but the joints showed. The system Michael uses works well if you select your wood well and use LMI white glue...nice joints. The way I did this one was a little wasteful but it worked. I took an inch and a quarter piece of maple burl, used a circle cutter on my trim router with a down cut end mill and cut an outline of about a 3 inch segment of the rosette. I picked a piece with a nice pattern. I cut about 3/4 way through the board. Then I set my bandsaw at about .1" and cut some slices. The rosette in the picture is made of about 5 pieces, no set size, I just cut the lenghts I needed to make a nice pattern. I made a jig with the router and circle cutter to trim the pieces to lenght. Kind of like Michaels except I used a rasor saw and not a sanding disk for trimming, Glued with LMI white, inlayed the rosette and the used the router to trim around and make a channel for the purfuring. I know this is abreviated but I hope it helps! |
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| Author: | Serge Poirier [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:13 pm ] |
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Very nice clean rosettes Joe, both look awesome! 
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:09 pm ] |
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Joe- Thanks for the explanation. I had seen the posts you refer to, so I'm pretty sure I understand what you are doing. Tomorrow's project is to make a decent circle cutting jig for my lam trimmer. Hopefully I'll be able to post a few pics once I get the quality up to where I want it. John |
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| Author: | Dave Anderson [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:01 am ] |
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Hey Joe, Lookin' good I think that maple burl is real nice work! Andys stuff is always nice too. WTG............ |
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| Author: | alambert [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:54 am ] |
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Those look great! |
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| Author: | Brock Poling [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:13 am ] |
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[QUOTE=JohnAbercrombie] Very nice work! I've just spent a couple of hours experimenting to try to find a way to cut those wood rosette rings cleanly- without much success. Obviously you have it figured out! What technique do you use to cut them ? (type of cutter, etc.)? Thanks John [/QUOTE] If you are talking about cutting the rings I think a lam trimmer is the best tool to use and a downcut bit. Take a tiny tiny tiny cut, plunge a little deeper and cut again. If you are getting chips out of the edges of your ring try taking shallower cuts. Microfence makes a great tool that is can be modified into a rosette cutter. It gives you .001" accuracy, but it is expensive. If you use a dremel, just go slow. I really am not a big fan of the dremel, but I use it for rosettes sometimes. |
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| Author: | Chris Cordle [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:27 am ] |
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Excellent work! I think creating the rosette is one of my favorite things to do. |
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| Author: | JohnAbercrombie [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:33 am ] |
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Brock- Thanks for the hints. Stay tuned for some better results from my shop! John |
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| Author: | Anthony Z [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:08 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Joe Beaver] Anthony....you couldn't afford me by the hour! I spent a lot of time and put a lot of beautiful wood in the trash getting this one! [/QUOTE] Who said anything about paying you by the hour  Besides with all the practice you got on the one shown -- waste shouldn't be an issue this time
Joe -- my initial comment was intended as a backhanded compliment to say I'd be happy for one or both of those rosettes to adorn my guitars. Cheers mate! |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:23 am ] |
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John, take a look through the archives under "circle cutter" You'll find a couple of home built's that will work very well. I made on based on Tony Karol's, you can see it here |
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| Author: | Rod True [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 8:27 am ] |
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Joe, sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet looking rosette's there. I love to coloring in that paua, it's electric.
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| Author: | Serge Poirier [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:28 am ] |
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[QUOTE=Rod True] John, take a look through the archives under "circle cutter" You'll find a couple of home built's that will work very well. I made on based on Tony Karol's, you can see it here[/QUOTE] And it works just great John, Rod made me one! 
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| Author: | Joe Beaver [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:01 pm ] |
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Who said anything about paying you by the hour Besides with all the practice you got on the one shown -- waste shouldn't be an issue this time
Cheers mate! [/QUOTE] Anthony, I'm beginning to realize that if I stay with it... ruin a bunch of wood, but keep trying, I eventually get it... and that is a goood thing. Did I tell you about the ten or so sides I threw in the trash trying to get my cutaway bending technique down? Luckily I cut them all from a $40 piece of sepelle I bought from my local Austins hardwoods. It was some of the best money I've spent!!! |
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| Author: | Anthony Z [ Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:23 pm ] |
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Joe, a man after my own heart...been there too, why do you think I asked you to make my rosettes 
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